there were 20 laws broken in littleton, kro. more than a hundred laws -- the answer is no. >> you are not being logical. there will be people that fall through the cracks. there will be bad guys that figured out how to evade the background checks but it will alert people when certain people should not be buying guns. it is going to alert the f.b.i., that is very important. >> heather: right now apparently senator joe mansion who is gun owner himself is in talks with the nra to try to come up with sort of compromise agreement. part of the issue he says is exactly how will these background check lists, where will they be held. how will people have access to them? >> right now there is big question whether they should happen and whether they do happen at gun shows which they usually don't. the issue is bringing that into the fold. that may solve some of our problems. it's not going to solve all of them. you will get a lunatic finding a way around it but a national. >> heather: national registry? >> that is where people are concerne